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	<title>Comments on: Spring Back, Fall Forward</title>
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		<title>By: Someboy Else Smashes the Shop &#8230; &#8212; Mike Snider&#8217;s Formal Blog</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Aaron has a good post of his own on Larkin&#8217;s &#8220;Spring,&#8221; though I think &#8220;craven needs a little more [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Martin Porter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin Porter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 09:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aaron, I found your notes on this poem very interesting and full of insights. I particularly liked your point about the tree being seen upside down, as the observer moves the eyes down from the sky, from leaf to root.

As you point out, the final word is as remakable metrically as it is puzzling semantically. My own take on it (for what it&#039;s worth) has been that Nature is made modest by the fresh clothing of Spring, while the alienated poet receives no such covering, and is therefore immodest. This is not as far-fetched as it sounds at first, when you think how often here is deciduous England the falling leaves of Autumn are associated with becoming naked:

Nature, in awe of him,
Had doffed her gaudy trim,
With her great Master so to sympathize:
It was no season then for her
To wanton with the sun, her lusty paramour.

Only with speeches fair
She wooes the gentle air,
To hide her guilty front with innocent snow;
And on her naked shame,
Pollute with sinful blame,
The saintly veil of maiden-white to throw;
Confounded, that her Maker&#039;s eyes
Should look so near upon her foul deformities.

(from Milton). In others words, as Christmas approaches, Nature becomes naked like the infant Jesus, but covers herself with snow to hide the &quot;foul deformities&quot; of her twisted tree branches.

As you say, Larkin&#039;s theme goes back a long way, but I think it&#039;s as much about love as the intellect. Spring is the time for falling in love, but love does not come for the poet (Petrarch&#039;s sonnet &quot;zefiro torna&quot;, endlessly imitated), or perhaps, Spring is the time for falling in love, let&#039;s hope the poet gets lucky (Milton&#039;s sonnet &quot;O nightingale&quot;, for example). Here, I think the poet sees such feelings as being behind him.

Anyway, what I like about Larkin&#039;s poem is the unpretentious urban simplicity of his experience, more pigeons than nightingales.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aaron, I found your notes on this poem very interesting and full of insights. I particularly liked your point about the tree being seen upside down, as the observer moves the eyes down from the sky, from leaf to root.</p>
<p>As you point out, the final word is as remakable metrically as it is puzzling semantically. My own take on it (for what it&#8217;s worth) has been that Nature is made modest by the fresh clothing of Spring, while the alienated poet receives no such covering, and is therefore immodest. This is not as far-fetched as it sounds at first, when you think how often here is deciduous England the falling leaves of Autumn are associated with becoming naked:</p>
<p>Nature, in awe of him,<br />
Had doffed her gaudy trim,<br />
With her great Master so to sympathize:<br />
It was no season then for her<br />
To wanton with the sun, her lusty paramour.</p>
<p>Only with speeches fair<br />
She wooes the gentle air,<br />
To hide her guilty front with innocent snow;<br />
And on her naked shame,<br />
Pollute with sinful blame,<br />
The saintly veil of maiden-white to throw;<br />
Confounded, that her Maker&#8217;s eyes<br />
Should look so near upon her foul deformities.</p>
<p>(from Milton). In others words, as Christmas approaches, Nature becomes naked like the infant Jesus, but covers herself with snow to hide the &#8220;foul deformities&#8221; of her twisted tree branches.</p>
<p>As you say, Larkin&#8217;s theme goes back a long way, but I think it&#8217;s as much about love as the intellect. Spring is the time for falling in love, but love does not come for the poet (Petrarch&#8217;s sonnet &#8220;zefiro torna&#8221;, endlessly imitated), or perhaps, Spring is the time for falling in love, let&#8217;s hope the poet gets lucky (Milton&#8217;s sonnet &#8220;O nightingale&#8221;, for example). Here, I think the poet sees such feelings as being behind him.</p>
<p>Anyway, what I like about Larkin&#8217;s poem is the unpretentious urban simplicity of his experience, more pigeons than nightingales.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron's mother</title>
		<link>http://www.godofthemachine.com/?p=608&#038;cpage=1#comment-32930</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron's mother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2007 17:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My reading (or perhaps view from 10,000 feet) of this poem is most likely informed by my own aging. When burgeoning, fecund nature has no use for you, ALL your needs are immodest. Perhaps all these readings can work: a cranky mood that distances you from nature--a mood brought on by unreasonable expectations, (immodest needs) [Laura]; a purely intellectual stance [you]; old age, when nature is finished with you [me]. But I doubt that Larkin would have been that flexible. Your view was probably his, which I guess makes it definitive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My reading (or perhaps view from 10,000 feet) of this poem is most likely informed by my own aging. When burgeoning, fecund nature has no use for you, ALL your needs are immodest. Perhaps all these readings can work: a cranky mood that distances you from nature&#8211;a mood brought on by unreasonable expectations, (immodest needs) [Laura]; a purely intellectual stance [you]; old age, when nature is finished with you [me]. But I doubt that Larkin would have been that flexible. Your view was probably his, which I guess makes it definitive.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt McIntosh</title>
		<link>http://www.godofthemachine.com/?p=608&#038;cpage=1#comment-32346</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt McIntosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 02:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I liked this; the theme also happens to be a favorite of mine as well. It&#039;s put me in mind to re-read &lt;a href=&quot;http://southerncrossreview.org/9/kleist.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;On the Marionette Theatre&quot;&lt;/a&gt; by Heinrich von Kleist, which I&#039;d forgotten about for years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked this; the theme also happens to be a favorite of mine as well. It&#8217;s put me in mind to re-read <a href="http://southerncrossreview.org/9/kleist.htm" rel="nofollow">&#8220;On the Marionette Theatre&#8221;</a> by Heinrich von Kleist, which I&#8217;d forgotten about for years.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Haspel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron Haspel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 13:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Less in style than in substance, Tim; but yes, this theme is one my pets. Am I imposing it on Larkin? I hope not; at any rate I tried to check myself by adhering as closely to the text as I could.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Less in style than in substance, Tim; but yes, this theme is one my pets. Am I imposing it on Larkin? I hope not; at any rate I tried to check myself by adhering as closely to the text as I could.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Hulsey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Hulsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 09:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You seem to have found in Larkin something of a kindred spirit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You seem to have found in Larkin something of a kindred spirit.</p>
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