{"id":377,"date":"2003-03-25T14:13:29","date_gmt":"2003-03-25T18:13:29","guid":{"rendered":"\/?p=377"},"modified":"2007-03-17T10:51:50","modified_gmt":"2007-03-17T14:51:50","slug":"carpe-diem-two-kinds","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.godofthemachine.com\/?p=377","title":{"rendered":"Carpe Diem, Two Kinds"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.onegoodturn.blogspot.com\/2003_03_23_onegoodturn_archive.html#200034747\">Eddie Thomas<\/a>, who ordinarily philosophizes, ventures into poetry analysis &#8212; of very bad poetry, but poetry nonetheless. He chooses &#8220;Your Guess Is As Good As Mine,&#8221; by <a href=\"http:\/\/home.att.net\/~jscully\/thederailers\/\">the Derailers<\/a>, a honky-tonk band I&#8217;ve never heard of. The lyrics run:<\/p>\n<p class=\"verse\">Every time we talk, you keep asking me<br \/>\nWhere our hearts are headed and how it&#8217;s gonna be<br \/>\nWell it&#8217;s too soon to tell, I can&#8217;t make that call<br \/>\nI&#8217;m not a fortune teller, I don&#8217;t have a crystal ball<\/p>\n<p class=\"verse\">Your guess is good as mine, I&#8217;m playing it by ear<br \/>\nAnd I&#8217;m not really sure, where we go from here<br \/>\nWhere our love will lead, we may learn in time<br \/>\nBaby your guess is good as mine<\/p>\n<p class=\"verse\">Don&#8217;t worry &#8217;bout tomorrow, forget about the past<br \/>\nLet&#8217;s enjoy the moment, don&#8217;t leave the best for last<br \/>\nThere may come a day when we can reminisce<br \/>\nRight now we better concentrate on every single kiss<\/p>\n<p>Eddie finds a good deal in this doggerel: &#8220;[W]hy is she concerned about the future so early in the relationship? Isn&#8217;t it likely that she&#8217;s deciding if he&#8217;s worth giving it up for? And isn&#8217;t his worth exactly what he is trying to get her not to think about? This isn&#8217;t <em>carpe diem<\/em> exactly, and I don&#8217;t think he&#8217;s concentrating on every single kiss, but I wish him luck.&#8221; <\/p>\n<p>One difficulty here lies with the term <em>carpe diem<\/em>, which is not so simple as it appears. One version is a plain celebration of youth, which one might call naive <em>carpe diem<\/em>. The <em>locus classicus<\/em> of this theme in English is Robert Herrick&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/www.recmusic.org\/lieder\/merge.cgi?483\">&#8220;To the Virgins, To Make Much of Time.&#8221;<\/a> This poem celebrates youth: &#8220;That age is best which is the first,\/ When youth and blood are warmer.&#8221; Herrick, a clergyman by trade, piously and disinteredstedly advises the virgins to marry while they&#8217;re young.<\/p>\n<p>Unlike Herrick, his contemporary, Andrew Marvell, in <a href=\"http:\/\/www.luminarium.org\/sevenlit\/marvell\/coy.htm\">&#8220;To His Coy Mistress,&#8221;<\/a> has an agenda, and makes no bones about it: &#8220;And your quaint honor turn to dust,\/ And into ashes all my lust.&#8221; He evinces no desire for marriage, and such love as he has for his mistress is subjunctive. Perhaps with world enough, and time, &#8220;My vegetable love should grow\/ Vaster than empires, and more slow&#8221;; but without it love doesn&#8217;t even enter the picture. &#8220;To His Coy Mistress&#8221; might be classified decadent <em>carpe diem<\/em>. The poem&#8217;s extremely high polish conceals its cold-bloodedness. Marvell even refers to himself in the third person in the title, as if to emphasize his distance from the scene. Although I find things to admire in this poem, I don&#8217;t, unlike Eddie, wish the poet luck in his designs &#8212; assuming they are real, and the poem is not merely an academic exercise.    <\/p>\n<p>The Derailers&#8217; song is more like Marvell&#8217;s poem than Herrick&#8217;s. What both versions of <em>carpe diem<\/em> share, however, is a tightly circumscribed view of experience. It abstracts away everything that is not immediate experience, which is most of what makes humans human. Eddie wonders whether his reading is <a href=\"http:\/\/www.godofthemachine.com\/archives\/00000309.html\">private<\/a>. I don&#8217;t think so. He interests himself in what is not stated in the poem, which is legitimate, provided it bears on what <em>is<\/em> stated. By doing so Eddie indirectly points up what makes <em>carpe diem<\/em> always a minor theme.  <\/p>\n<p>I look forward to the day one of the Derailers <a href=\"http:\/\/www.google.com\/search?hl=en&#038;ie=UTF-8&#038;oe=UTF-8&#038;q=derailers\">self-Googles<\/a> and happens on this exchange.<\/p>\n<p>(<b>Update:<\/b> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.onegoodturn.blogspot.com\/2003_03_23_onegoodturn_archive.html#200052906\">Eddie<\/a> comments, wondering if there is &#8220;a loss of truth&#8221; when song lyrics lose their music. I would say there is a loss of power. Poetry, at its best, depends largely on subtle metrical effects, which music swamps, so song lyrics that employ them are largely wasted. I remember my favorite songs for their music, and only incidentally for their lyrics. The only band I know whose lyrics are interesting by themselves is mid-70s Pink Floyd.)<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Eddie Thomas, who ordinarily philosophizes, ventures into poetry analysis &#8212; of very bad poetry, but poetry nonetheless. He chooses &#8220;Your Guess Is As Good As Mine,&#8221; by the Derailers, a honky-tonk band I&#8217;ve never heard of. 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